A Rejoinder to ato Redwan’s Analysis on Corporal Interests (Ersasu Mere)

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46 Responses

  1. dafa says:

    “Corporeal Interest” as in ስጋዊ ፍላጎት…
    Ersasu Mere: You may think you did good by picking on Redwan. You actually did a disservice to your readers by distracting them from the main issue.
    The main issue is, EPRDF has boasted of having 5 million cadres. We, the rest of Ethiopians (about hundred million), have to rise and be ready to face these 5 million challenges.

    • hanna says:

      He (ato Redwan ) hate America because he is radical Muslim but, the only country Muslims people live free with democracy and freedom in America. However, you and EPRDF Muslim cadres haven’t good attitude for America. Moreover, those Muslim countries don’t want to allow build a church, and a temple in their country but do you know how many Ethiopian Muslims mosques in U.S.A they can build A Mosques in America and they have freedom to pray and teach their religious. Ato Redwan have you remembered Saudi Arabia has sent all Cristian Ethiopians Saudi Arabia’s jails because of they read Bible and prayed together. To sum up, please don’t propagate your issue by undercover of EPRDF

    • Alula says:

      Hey man!
      You empty haters have 100 million, but the revolutionaries who freed Ethiopia from 100 years of darkness & working day in day out to free Ethiopia of poverty have only 5 million? Could you explain how these of hate politicians led by the remnant of Derg could have more than the RPRDF? How these who have done nothing for Ethiopia & working for Egypt’s interest at this moment just for money could have more supporters than the EPRDFites? Please check your facts & correct yourself!

    • dafa michael says:

      Hello People:
      How many of you have received a virus from Fikadu Seyoum?

  2. Masresha says:

    Poor analysis.

  3. Mamush says:

    Ersasu Mere (Fasil Yenealem) why did you hide your identity.

  4. poor politics says:

    As usual, poor propaganda from G7 hooligans

  5. Birabiro says:

    It is obvious that Americans don’t care for human rights, press freedom and multiparty system elsewhere, rather they do care for thier corporal interests. Enough is enough.

  6. Slick says:

    Is journalism is not like a agent (Delala) ! As Christopher Morley said “Read, every day, something no one else is reading. Think, every day, something no one else is thinking. Do, every day, something no one else would be silly enough to do. It is bad for the mind to be always part of unanimity.”
    Aka Woyane agent (Ato dawit) do not undermine your readers. Bring the hot issue what is bubbling inside out TPLF circle.
    Speak about the injustice ! Write about the bubble Revolution to erupt and swipe the Nation… Revolution is coming to swipe out the OLD Revolution called EPRDF. As you all read this note… time is clicking… tic tic tic tic….. 11th hours !

    • axumawe says:

      you have been there for over 125 years steel you are sleep walking. put your pants and be our gust, you and the commentator kahdiwoch !
      long live Ethiopia !
      long live Eprdf !
      most of all LONG LIVE WOYEN !!!!TPLF.
      it is not the n# it counts it is the bravery and determination.

  7. Mahmoud says:

    Why is this slave trying to defend Americans.” ውሻ በበላበት ይጮሃል…..”

  8. bruk says:

    What a trash article. have you heard about George soros, “he helped engineer coups in Slovakia, Croatia, Georgia, and Yugoslavia. When Soros targets a country for “regime change,” he begins by creating a shadow government, a fully formed government-in-exile, ready to assume power when the opportunity arises. The Shadow Party he has built in America greatly resembles those he has created in other countries prior to instigating a coup.” and the human right is supported with this kind of people. the latest one is Ukrain( soros admitted it in his own words). I understand your small brain can’t handle this kind of information, but this kind of people was redwan talking about. and he said it right about the medias.

  9. Ambon says:

    Listened to redwans interview again. He say ‘ corporeal’ as distinct from corporate. As I understand corporeal refers to a body in this case a political motivated collection of people.

    Adj. 1. corporeal – having material or physical form or substance; “that which is created is of necessity corporeal and visible and tangible” – Benjamin Jowett
    material
    bodied – having a body or a body of a specified kind; often used in combination; “strong-bodied”; “big-bodied”
    incorporeal, immaterial – without material form or substance; “an incorporeal spirit”

  10. Dejene says:

    ቢራቢሮ አንተም እንደ አለቃህ Corporal Interests ን ደገምከው:: ጸሃፊው በቃሉ ሲሳለቅባችሁ ነበረ እኮ:: አይ የካድሬ ነገር እንዲያው አንብባችሁ እንኳን ሳትጨርሱ ነው አስተያየት የምትሰጡት::

  11. Cherkos says:

    I couldn’t get the point why Awramba times published this trash ‘article’. It is full of distortions, labeling and insults. The minister gave you the interview with good intention. Is that good to reciprocate with name calling?

  12. Endalemaw says:

    Dawit, I apreciate your efforts to entertain both sides of the story. However this article is the most nasty one.

  13. mamush says:

    @Awramba Times Editor
    Awramba Times Editor had posted the following comment on June 14, 2014 on this forum:
    Dear all,
    “We at Awramba Times actively encourage our forum members to comment on every post. However we want to let some insult-addicted netters know that, we don’t tolerate comments that contain libelous, defamatory, abusive, harassing and threatening remarks.”
    “Without insulting each other, we need to be clear about the best way of getting what is best for Ethiopia.”
    Thank you
    Editor, Awramba Times
    Is this comment is for the selected individuals or for all? I have seen this while you were blocking the selected individual comments specially the ruling party supporters. Do you think that your forum is fair? I can call the name of individuals and the date you blocked their comments while you posted the comment in which the Ethiopian people is bitterly insulted by the arrogant Eritrean man by saying Ethiopians are “selling their body”.
    “አዉራአምባ ታይምስ”ን ማመስገንም መዉቀስም እፈልጋለሁ፡፡ ምክንያቱም ከፅንፈኛ የገዥ ፓርቲ ደጋፍ እስከ አክራሪ ተቃዋሚ፣ ከከፍተኛ ምሁራዊ አስተያየት እስከ ተራ ተሳዳቢ፣ ከለዘብተኛ ፖለቲከኛ እስከ ቀለም አብዮተኛ ወዘተ… ያሉ አስተያየቶችን ማስተናገደቹ በከፍል ስያስመሰግናቹ የኢትዮጵያ ሕዝቦች ስሰደቡ ተቀብሎ ማስተናገድ ግን ድክመታቹ ነዉ፡፡ ይህ ወደፊት ሊታረም ይገባል ብዬ አስባለሁ፡፡ “አዉራአምባ ታይምስ”ን የኢዲቶሪያል ፖሊሲ መተዳደሪያ ደንቦችንና ገዥ ማዕቀፎችን ማሳወቅ ስገባቸዉ ፎረሙን የጋጠወጦችና የተሳዳብዎች መድረክ አደረጉት፡፡መብታቸዉም ፖሊሲያቸዉም እስከሆነ ድረስ ምንም ማድረግ አልችልም፡፡በፎረሙ በላቤቶች አድልኦ እስከልተፈጸመብኝ ድረስ እኔም በበኩሌ በኢትዮጵያ ሕዝብ ላይ የሚሰነዘርን ስድብ በሚመጥን ስልት ግብረ-መልስ ለመስጠት እገደዳለሁ፡፡አድልኦ ከተፈፀመብኝ ግን ጥፋቱ የ“አዉራአምባ ታይምስ” ስለሆነ ቦኋላ እንደታዝኑብኝ አደራ እላለሁ፡፡
    Thank you

  14. Belay says:

    Please remove this poor piece

  15. poor ersasu says:

    Tagay Ersasu, endihu be tilacha endabedk ende ersas tekorarteh talkaleh…kkkkkkkk

  16. Asmamaw Tadege says:

    እርሳሱ፣ እውነትም እርሳሱ ስማ በዚሁ ከቀጠልክ በህዳሴው ላጲስ ትደመሰሳለህ

  17. mamudo says:

    ወይ እርሳሱ በቃ የእውቀትህ ጥግ አቶ ሬድዋን በመስደብ ገለፅክልን አይደል ለምን እዚህ ከምትለጥፈው በእንግሊዝኛ አስተርጉመህ ለአሜሪካ ኤምባሲ አትልከውም

  18. Ersasu says:

    በመጀመሪያ ቀን ከቀን ትክክለኛውን ወገንተኛ ያልሆነ የጋዜጠኛነት ሙያውን ለመፈጸም የሚጥረውን አቶ ዳዊት ከበደን ማመስገን እወዳለሁ:: ስለ ሙያው ያለውን ግንዛቤና ስለ እሱ እምነት ክ CNN ጋር ያደረገውን ቃለ ምልልስ በ YouTube ላይ መየት ይረዳል።

    dafa እና Ambon እናንተ ያያችሁትን ትርጉም እኔም አይቸዋለሁ ነገር ግን የቃሉ ቀጥተኛውም ይሁን ምሳሌያዊ አጠቃቀሙን አላየሁትም:: “ስጋዊ ፍላጎት”? ተቃራኒው “መንፈሳዊ ፍላጎት” እንደሙሆን:: ሰውየውን አላዳናችኋቸውም። ጥሩ ሙከራ ነው ግን

    bruk
    Yes I have heard about Mr Soros a whole lot. I know he one of the leading philanthropist with an estimated 4 billion dollar in donation to the cause of liberty, democracy and freedom of speech in USA and abroad. Remember he was the force behind moveon.org to defeat Republicans and George W. Bush. He was involved in peaceful democratic transiton in his birth country of Hungary and the former Soviet Blocks. He began his service by helping black students in apartheid south Africa. He donated $50 million to fight poverty in Africa. You are right saying that he helped regime change in those countries. Obviously, that is the part you do not like. If you wise enough you should ask the Ethiopian people (not you and EPRDF)if they want regime change. You know it , some have even grabbed rifles to make that happen by force.

    Someone said if I am somebody (Fasil), no I am not. I am here working as a developmental journalist. I will come out if someone pays me to buy bread.

    Love Ethiopia and Ethiopians

    • hanna says:

      He (ato Redwan ) hate America because he is radical Muslim but, the only country Muslims people live free with democracy and freedom in America. However, you and EPRDF Muslim cadres haven’t good attitude for America. Moreover, those Muslim countries don’t want to allow build a church, and a temple in their country but do you know how many Ethiopian Muslims mosques in U.S.A they can build A Mosques in America and they have freedom to pray and teach their religious. Ato Redwan have you remembered Saudi Arabia has sent all Cristian Ethiopians Saudi Arabia’s jails because of they read Bible and prayed together. To sum up, please don’t propagate your issue by undercover of EPRDF

    • dafa says:

      Ersasu:
      I commend your effort, and I am grateful you read my comment.
      But please be informed that I wasn’t trying to defend Redwan. Yet I can’t be indifferent to his effort to survive under brutal government, by being part of the government itself.
      I guess that if EPRDF members have got some guarantee they wouldn’t be prosecuted when they leave office, they may not be as violent as they are now. (I can’t take out of my mind how sweet and respectful the TPLF soldiers were, when they took power)
      We, Ethiopians, should develop the culture of forgiveness. We, the disadvantaged/oppressed/divided, should make prevention of aggressive prosecution part of our goal when we talk about transition of power. Our challenge should be getting rid of the current leadership, without spilling a single human’s blood. Let us rise up to that challenge.
      We should never dishonor our leaders, they are still our brothers, though we may disagree on the way they lead the country.

    • axumawe says:

      Etem Ersasu,I DON’T WONT TO INSALTED YOU,
      b/c you are pretending you know, but you are on your delusional sleep walk remote move.
      as you say, if you know gorge w bush have been served his country 2 terms if your guy tried what ever he tried he failed, look his motives around the world he never be accepted is that you won’t to our country ?it is not going to happened clay head, and you are not smart to criticized minister Redwan Hussen , he is way better than you and way better than any toxic intellectual extreme diasporas do you know why ????
      b/c he is serving his country in the best possible way.
      what do you do beside cringe for change ?
      what have you done as Ethiopian for Ethiopia ?clay head.
      Eprdfs they didn’t hand over power from any one they just took it by force!!!
      do you’s have the pant ?
      do you’s have the got ?
      can you die for your blives ?I don’t think sooooooooooo clay heads
      by the way I am not member of Eprdf but I respect them, I supported them, and if it is necessary I well die for the police and plan they have to change my country they are the right party.
      long live Ethiopia !
      long live Eprdf !
      long live woyen !

    • Ambo says:

      I think it is very clear from your rejoinder that you took corporeal to mean corporate. Although only a few letters away from each other the two wards mean utterly different things. Instead of ‘madbesbes’ it would have been refreshing for you to have said ‘yea got the wrong end of the stick there’.

      In any case the HRW kind of outfits are not my cup of tea, I have to say. They start from the assumption that the lack of human right, in particular in developing world, is a function of ill will from their government. I think different. Poverty is the most egregious affront to the basic human rights and dignities. Not to acknowledge and more over positively denying, both in theory and practice, these clear and basic fact by organisation purporting to fight for human rights is wilful abuse of the term human rights. I agree with me redwan. Not much scratching is required to see their true colour.

      By the way, I think the point he was making in regards to resource rich countries was that the HRW et al don’t seem to bother with them despite their appalling levels of backwardness is precisely because their real agenda is not really respect, protection and promotion of human rights”

  19. Alula says:

    እርሳሱ መሬ

    የፅሁፍህ ነገር ምንም ዋጋ የለውም! ኣስተማሪ ኣትለው፣እርማት ኣትለው ብቻ ፅሁፍህ ልባሙ ያገራችን ሰው እንዳለው” በቅሎ የለለው ኣህያ ይንቃል”! ሬድዋን ሁሴን እኮ፣የኛ ዶክተርና ኢንጂኔር ተብየዎች በኒዮ ሊበራሎች ጋቢ ተከናንበው የቀለም ኣብዮትና የኣረብ ስፕሪንግ ታጥቀው የስልጣን ጥማታቸውን ለማርካት ኣሰፍስፈው የነበሩቶን ሁለተኛ ባንድላይ እንዳይቀመጡ ኣድርገው ጅራቶቻቸውን ቆልፈው ወደመጡበት ከመለሱት ኣንዱ ነው! ኣየ የኛ ኣወቅሁሽ ናቅሁሽ!

  20. me says:

    Jegnaw EPRDF only Works!!
    While big mouthes talk!
    EPRDF :a party of history makers!!

  21. yes says:

    Thanks God that i am EPRDF member!!

  22. dafa says:

    One other thing I forgot:
    On the day Abebe Gelaw was protesting during Meles’ speech, Meles was talking about an extremely important issue: the subsidies the farmers in rich countries receive, and the resulting distorted market. While we like to talk about Abebe’s protest, we willingly overlook Meles speech which was beneficial for all of Africa, only if it were heeded.
    My argument is that while we are busy insulting each other, then murdering each other, we tend to forget our common advantages.

    • Gezaee says:

      Why Meles did not allow his country to use its natural ports before going to USA to talk about international market? Meles was an Ethiopian problem cause than a solution? He did not see the log that was in his own eye before pointing fingers anywhere. Meles was hated by nationalist Ethiopians. No matter whatever he says or does, people were not even interested to see him leave alone to listen to him. He never corrected mistakes apart from forcing them. He was only interested to become a master teacher, but he was always rejected and even despised by nationalist Ethiopians. Woyane leaders must have learnt from what happened to him in that even of Abebe Gelaw. You seem to be 100% reluctant to change or grow and develop? you are stuck in the dedebit mentality. For me inorder to listen to u, there must be a preamble to it. The preamble of Meles was hatred. He was hated by Ultra nationalist Ethiopians. He was a sworn his antiEthiopia. The fact his wife disappeared from the scene of politics after his death means a lot because she was on top power because of him, not because of her merit. Now she is dumped like him and she alienated now. This is what happens when you promote yourself. So dafa, the problem is that woyane does not have good track record to be heard by anyone and that is the reasons they are chased wherever they go in Europe and North America. But they never get it. They accuse diaspora of extremism and bla bla. I do not agree with the way diaspora handle the problem but there is a problem between woyane and Ethiopians in general which woyanes never admit there is problem.

      • HELO says:

        ATO GEZAEE,
        MELESE AND WEYANE DID A LOT OF GOOD THINGS IN ETHIOPIAN HISTORY SHCOOL,ROAD,ENERGEY AND SO ON. WHAT IS NATIONALISM IS IT FASHISIM?…….
        I THINK YOU ARE ONE OF THEM.I AM JUST ETHIOPIAN THATS ALL.
        YOU TELL ME WHAT YOU DID FOR YOUR COUNTRY THEN I LESN UNDERSTAND?

  23. Gezaee says:

    Dafa, Ethiopians do not care who rules Ethiopia. What is driving crazy Ethiopians including myself is leaders doing the wrong things on purpose in an evil way and with bad intention and with intention of destroying the country. This is the agenda of woyane. Woyane has no good intention they just wanted to become rich with their family and zemed azmad. They do not care damn about Ethipia. They only need Ethiopia to rape it with every body. That is why they are selling everything to anyone who has money. Egypt has now invaded Ethiopia without a single shot and without any war because of Woyane. Yohannes gave his Neck of because of them and no Ethiopians wanted them to set their foot in our land. But the cursed, corrupt woyane has allowed them to invade Ethiopia without any war and they have taken control of the country now. We have no country now Ethiopia is gone unless we wake up and remove the cancer woyane Tigrai who is sleeping with our enemies for temporary financial and monetary gain. The countries existence is under threat now. People may not agree with me, but the country is in dangerous situation security wise. Egyptian have worked the last three months to cut Ethiopia from the entire world and to isolate it and now that did not work. Now they have moved to Alshabab in Somalia, South Sudan, Tanzania, Kenya, Erittrea, Sudan and they are working 24 hours to instigate another war in Ethiopia. The useless woyane is now even inviting them to come and invest in Ethiopia? Can you imagine that? u have seen them what they did even the last three months? but woyane did not care about what they did and they asking them to come and invest in Ethiopia. I was against the campaign by diaspora to despise woyane members. I think diaspora are right woyanes need to be despised and outcast from Ethiopian society because they do not belong to Ethiopians society. May be these people are Tigrignea speaking Arab by family pedigree. Otherewise, What they do not seem Ethiopian by any amount. They do not deserve respect at all. They are anti the people of Ethiopia and its land.

    • Menkem-Abyssinia says:

      @ Gezzaee
      First of all, your are one of the “petty mind” individuals packed with excessive animosity against “Weyane”. Any person who has read you writing can see that fact. I can confer from what you spite here and there. The fact that you are trying to brag as if you know every thing depict the truth that how desperately ignorant you are. Probably you may be one of the defunct of erstwhile regime. Don’t try to guise your identity, you can toss whatever ideas you have but that can’t conceal your true motive to boast and to defame our heroes and heroins. First of your are an economic immigrate working day and night to satisfy your belly like a horse, for this reason don’t have the moral to derogate,disparage and discredit our beloved father Meles and his comrades. These brave,great and golden fighters are not individuals like you and your likes simply living in this world for nothing just disseminating malicious gossip and fabricated anecdote to disrespect worldly recognized personality like our beloved father Meles. Meles was not a simple man as you might think, he was a world class thinker who died while he was working day and night to transform his nation and its people from destitution to the list of lower middle income countries. But people like you are barking like desperately hungry dog in every websites hiding out their identity behind computer screens blabbering like a hero.Anyway, let me tell you a fact that Weyane will never die, Weyane is not physical matter as you might think but it is way of thinking/ideology ( got solidification) to rescue Ethiopia and its people from centuries old utter poverty and shame by mobilizing it’s resources including its human capital. It’s for this mere reason all segments of the Ethiopia nations and nationalities gave their consent to work hand in hand to uproot our number one enemy “poverty” for one and for all with Weyane. And therefore generation and generations to come will be extricated from poverty bars. However people like you and your likes will die like an old donkey wandering in fantasies.

  24. axumawe says:

    Ante, free Shentam !!!!!you run from where you where to Addis when woyane is routing the cadres of derg in 1970 from tegray, including your brother when your sisters have fought the agley derg.
    know you are spreading fouls propaganda about Ethiopia. live Ethiopia for all Ethiopians, we well defend our nation. like our fathers, we don’t run like your masters, our masters have gave there life for there blive, we Ethiopians we are like father like a son and daughter.
    long live Ethiopia !
    long live Eprdf !
    long live woyane tegray.
    Anta Nfate,kehadi hezbu

  25. dafa says:

    Gezaee: What Woyane is doing is not as sinister as you put it. It couldn’t figure out how to change the power it gained via war to electoral power. As any stupid person does when he understands his impotence, Woyane is acting bully.

  26. Biniam says:

    This has got to have been written by an eprdf supporter … To mock the opposition views minamin …. That’s the only motive I can imagine, you can’t be serious coming out this tripe as a serious argument, surely!

  27. Alula says:

    Gezaee

    You care about Ethiopia right? What did you do for Ethiopia? Remember people who know you said you chose to be Eritrean & voted on their referendum! Jib bemayaqut hager hedo qorbet antifulign ale endemilut honobih new? At the beginning you accepted Issias’ propaganda & you thought Ethiopia will disintegrate & Eritrea will flourish & you took Eritrean citizenship & voted for it,those who know you said! Bezih edmeh hulet Mayet hatiyat aydelem?

    The only thing that your writing explain is; you are not mentally stable! Take it easy & takecare of yourself!

  28. Hermi says:

    Gezae You hit the bottom. Now you are drooling everywhere like a mad dog. You are blubbering like a scared kid trying to apease his opponent. Why not come out openly and say Abebe Gelaw is your hero and you support G7…..min Dar Dar tilaleh. Are these few vocal diaspora haters you mentioned
    as your population samples to conclude that the diaspora hate Woyane and Meles? That kind of blind assertion speaks volumes on your inteligence. Like I said before you are a background noise that is a nuisance but doesnot amount to nothing. Better get help for your family sake if you have one. Hate is a cancer it will consume you. The Woyanes you day and night try to badmouth are transforming the country. You are crying like a baby at the background waiting for holly-pop or his mom’s pinching.
    Adieus. My last coment to you.

  29. Kelemu says:

    The writing is full of rhetoric (ashmur); no substance.
    Awramba I like your attempt to bring both sides of the equation; but please try to bring us substantive opposing views not hateful, uninformed and unsubstantiated scribllings.
    regards
    Kelemu

  30. Ersasu says:

    Kelemu,

    This is not ‘Ashmur’, this is a way to express my disappointment on one of the top officials in the country. Don’t you feel ashamed when you hear your leader show such incompetence. The substance is that as a citizen I don’t want to be treated as ignorant. What does he mean he and his government know everyone in HR and freedom house to make it like his goverment is super intelligent while everyone knows who they are what they do.

  31. filmon neguse says:

    አቶ እርሳሱ አንድ መጽሀፍ እንደምንም ፈልገው እንዲያነቡት ተጋብዘዋል“The shock doctrine: The rise of disaster capitalism” ናኦሚ ክሌይ

  32. tewodros says:

    THANKES AWRAMBA AND dawit k
    i was leseing to Redewan you boren for polatic you are on the right track good job i am so happy for all ansewr. you have confidance and nawelage we need that..i fill bad you sister she diea because of transport ..hospital …and ther are our sister diea ever corener of Ethiopia …this one of eprdf fiteng with the dictater MENGESTU..

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