Debate Among Political Elites on Progress and Retreat of Democratization in Ethiopia (Video)

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  1. ክበር ተመስገን says:

    Dear Kiber Temesgen
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  2. Tatek says:

    Thank you Awramba Times for posting another nice debate pitting Ethiopian Scholars on the burning issues of the nation. In his campaign speech for reelection in South Carolina in 1992, President Bush Sr said America under his Republican friend, Ronald Reagan, had defeated the scariest threat to human existence in the Soviet Union to the deafening applause of his supporters—albeit the applause was one of absolute disapproval. The cold War indeed was the scariest conflict in human history, since the survival of hundreds of millions of people—perhaps the human race itself —had been at stake. But South Carolinans knew that the Soviet Union was brought down by, as Mikahil Gotrbachev later plainly put it, the obvious realities that the status quo was no longer sustainable and had to be abondoned and not by Reagan’s Military heroism, and Bush’s claim of an undue credit was a white lie. In similar token, Prof Tekola’s inference that the Meles Constitution, though not without flaws had some nice stuff in it to be considered a pilece of trash is something that doesn’t hold any weight, as whatever good stuff there might be, a trash is anyway a trash. The document’s very flaws start from the very fact that the the Supreme Authority of the land is vested not in the Supreme Court but by the TPLF handpicked upper House, commonly called the House of Federation. Contrary to the traditions of a Parliamentary Democracy, The Meles document gives the Prime Minister’s office Imperial Powers making it in charge of the Military and all Security establishment. Meles well knew that political talent for forging personal relationships with his unholy Coalition partners was based on trust, intelligence and unyielding persona and loyalty, unlike Hailemariam Desalegn who opted for worshiping what he called the legacy of his dead boss. This appears to fully contradict Tekola’s take that Desalegn was a man of principle and faith. I agree with both that most of the brakes that catapulted EPRDF to power were from out of the blue( Dergu’s own political suicide by executing its effective Military leaders following the aborted coup of 1989 and the Fall of Communism and the determination of the US in sweeping the EPRDF to the annals of power); before that though it was the Dergue itself who seemed to milk from providence.
    At the end of the day our nation is long suffering and there appears to be no question that a healing must be induced. This requires the very painful yet so important process of National Healing and forgiveness—which surely is much harder to summon than the desire to settle old scores as we all were mortals; but at the end of the day no democratic axiom claimed that any electorate was infallible—only that the public will must be respected through corrections and adjustments.

  3. Shalom says:

    Thank God you’re not anywhere close to power.
    Anyone can see that your hate blinded you and got into the way of your rationality (if you had any rationality at all).
    Now, I watched this I will not have the benefit of doubt I used to give you guys.
    There are numerous non-sense comments and fallacies in the statements given by both commentators. They cannot even reason as an ordinary Weyane cadre reasons. You guys cannot convince an illiterate street guy let alone the intelligentsia (your dream audience). If you don’t have a good point to oppose, be quite, or be supportive at best.

  4. Hailu says:

    A to Tekola,
    I do not know what problem you have with Meles but please note that he is the best leader Ethiopia has ever seen.He was a man of action not a man of talk like you

  5. Abe says:

    Messay is dinosaurs, out of touch.. I feel sorry for his students.He thinks democracy can be built overnight from scratch.
    China has developed without practicing liberal democracy. Where is the logic.?

  6. Samson says:

    Awrambatimes, It would have been better if you interview scholars that are not infected with hate. So that the new generation can learn and discuss issues in fairness. These so-called diaspora scholars are telling us how bad Meles was. Meles has done all his best with all his shortcomings but what did these so-called scholars contribute to Ethiopia other than weekly articles that are loaded with hate.

  7. Kichew says:

    Great dialogue and god job Dawit!

    Let me go to the main subject now….

    For me, Prof. Messay’s argument is more convincing. His grasp of the concept of democracy is way ahead of most of contemporary Ethiopian intellectuals like Prof. Tecola Hagos.

    Tecola is nothing but dancing around the so called constitution. He might as well come out clear and say ‘yes I do believe in the constitution’. Here’s the problem now, he doesn’t say I was part of it, he says I received a draft copy. Just say I was part of the committee or at least admit the fact that you was involved in the writing somehow, someway. It’s also good that Yared mentioned at the very beginning that he was part of the EPRDF government on the rank of vice minister. Let’s not also forget about his hateful writings on the history of the Shewa Amharas. For me he hasn’t changed and is not much different than Sebhat Nega.

    Messay on the other hand is more clear on his stance on the so called constitution. His true belief in democracy is also something that needs to be paid due appreciation. However he needs to outline a much more practical roadmap of how democracy can be implemented in the context of Ethiopia. We are a much more different nation than western Europe and the west in general, true? Hopefully on the next episode, he’ll elaborate his commendable idea.

    I look forward to the next episode of the dialogue.

  8. Alem says:

    what the heck is this? Isn’t that old? Waste of time

  9. FIKREANESEGNE says:

    ETHIOPIA DO NOT NEED THE CONFUSED DIASPORAS, BUNCH OF LOSERS WHO KEEP TALKING NONSENSE. THEY ARE NOTHING BUT PAPER TIGERS, VINDICTIVE ARM CHAIRES. POLITICIAN. NO MATTER HARD IT MAY SEEM BACK HOME. WE MARCH ON WITHOUT THE RIDICULOUS IDEOLOGY OF NEW LBERAL IDEOLOGY WHICH IS PROVED NOT TO HAVE BEEN WORKING IN AFRICA. NO DEVELOPED COUNTRY HAVE REACHED THE DEMOCRATIZATION STAGE BEFORE DEVELOPING THEIR NATION. THIS IS A TEXT BOOK FACT. SO SHUT UP OR PUT UP! OUR PEASANTS ARE WISER THAN THESE SELF SERVING SCHOLARS! gOD BLESS ETHIOPIA

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