Egyptian President: There are enemies for Egypt, Sudan integration

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  1. teshome says:

    Mohammad Morsi, you said ” There are enemies for Egypt, Sudan integration”
    In a political language, you are definitely to referring Ethiopia as your enemy, but we tell you that you ain’t right and Morsi, common sense dead on you.
    I am a bit surprise, you didn’t speak a single word about the Ethiopians Nile project. Is that because you realized that your word on the issue will be brought under under microscope by the Ethiopia government??? You are not a good politician and you prefer to go around the bush for the very sensitive issue we were eager to listen.
    Why is after all Egypt politicians are no always open for discussion and dialogue on Nile? By not speaking the Ethiopian Nile project you cause undue public anxiety. Any ways it was one of the missed opportunity for Egypt to tell the world her stands on Grand Renaissance Dam

    • Akmel says:

      I don’t think so!

      I think he is referring to some Gulf states who are close to Sudan and want to buy favor from Sudan over Egypt.

      He cannot be referring to Ethiopia, because Ethiopia is nowhere near Egypt for the Sudanese, to threaten their relationships. He wouldn’t say anything about Ethiopia, because he doesn’t buy leverage over Ethiopia by visiting Sudan, as both nations are downstream in the Nile basin. Well, he obviously would say a lot behind the scene, but would not want to send any message, except to say we will collaborate with the Nile basin, based on the international law, etc, etc.

  2. jemal says:

    Why Ethiopian leaders Since Minlik, We have been the poorest in the world, because we are are not lead by intelligent people. I got the problem now that Ethiopia is lowest IQ people in the world.For our internal problem we point our finger to Egypt, Sudan, Nile river etc. All of us is the product of Low IQ. you can read the following link
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2006/nov/05/highereducation.research
    http://ethiopianreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=14771
    http://nazret.com/blog/index.php/2006/11/06/ethiopia_low_iqs_are_africa_s_curse_says
    http://www.ukzambians.co.uk/home/2013/01/21/hunt-for-successor-33-our-iq-is-less-than-70/

    • Ahmed-Nur says:

      Since you mentioned it: Menilik was a far-sighted and highly intelligent leader. He had tried to reforest Ethiopia way before the topic was discovered in the west by environmentalists. He was a great military man and an exceptionally intelligent diplomat who could keep colonialists at bay by playing them off against one another.
      Hailesilassie was simply an extraordinary diplomat who was loved and respected by all -west or east, African or non-African. Just read his speech at the League of Nations.
      Mengistu was indeed a disgrace, except for his unwavering dedication for African independence.
      Last but not least, Meles Zenawi “was an acutely intelligent and personally financially incorruptible leader” Even AlJazeera, that often promotes anti-Ethiopia sentiments, wrote in an item entitled “Zenawi: The titan who changed Africa”, that Meles was endowed with “outstanding intelligence, shrewd political skills and uncanny ability to navigate different worlds without much difficulty”.
      I think it is too early to make any statement about the current prime minister, therefore let us wait and see.
      Our leaders may have been too autocratic and overly power-hungry. But all in all, we have had so far very articulate, patriotic and intelligent leaders -and if you apply 3rd world standards- who have been great.

  3. Abdelffatah Mohamed says:

    Nile belongs to Egypt historically and legally. Egyptians will never see this tragedy quietly.

    • Abi says:

      Abdelffatah’ statment looks really jiving and terrorist. Mr Abdelffatah, have you ever read your Qurran let alone reading History about the Nile River?

    • MK says:

      @Abdelffatah Nile belongs to amara,gojam,ethiopia not sudan or egypt , unfortunatly ethiopians has been fighting and killing each other for power since for long time and they have forgotten to use Nile. But Dont worry ethipians war and hate each other never ends so u will use Nile forever with out any compitition….

    • Yonas says:

      Try it then u stupid motherf***!

  4. Alex says:

    @jemal and Abdelffatah Mohamed go and cry at your taharir square ….Ethiopia has all the right to use its river Nile

  5. Mario says:

    Abdelffatah Mohammad,

    The Nile belongs to all countries where the Nile passes through!

    The only way to use the Nile is: to use it in an equitable manner !

    Your the “Nile belongs to Egypt & shit …” Wil never hold any water nor reflects the reality of the Nile! Therefore , the best way is to face the reality of the Nile belongs to Ethiopia first & then to the down stream country! Anything less will will put you at bay!

  6. Eritrean says:

    Nile belongs to Ethiopia,Egyptians has one choice to discus with Ethiopia and Nile basin countries only,if they try any thing that will be the end of nile history.

    Jemal Ethiopians are the highies IQ in the world,may be yours is the lowest,check it.

  7. Abdelffatah Mohamed says:

    Eritrea, Mario and Alex,
    I know the modern history of hydro-politics in the Nile basin is very complex and has had wide ramifications both for regional and global developments. But as a matter of fact there is no doubt that the major and legitimate right goes to Egypt. Why don’t you read history? The 1929 agreement was signed between Egypt and Great Britain, which at the time was acting on behalf of its east African colonies. The 1959 Egypt, Sudan agreement acts as a supplement to the previous accord and gives Egypt the right to 55.5 billion cubic meters of Nile water a year.
    We are heavily dependent on the Nile River, which comprises around 87 percent of our total water resources as we have little rainfall. The ambition of building a dam is an irony for a poor country that couldn’t feed its starved children.

    • teshome says:

      If your wish were to use Nile for Egypt only, the answer would be Emphatic No
      We don’t deny that for the last many many years the characteristics of Ethiopia was poverty, disease and cycles of conflict. Partly Egyptians and the Sudanese were responsible for highjacking and manipulating Ethiopian domestic politics to see a weakened Ethiopia and to make a hopeless country in the continent . I tell you, they were successful. We knew very well how Ethiopia matters for Egypt and Sudan. The big problem now is these countries were unable to accept that Ethiopia is changed for good and became the rising country in the continent who can influence Egypt and Sudan. Thanks for the Good work of our beloved PM Meles Zenawi, Ethiopia is started to change for better and made her one of the fastest growing economy in the world. Whether you like it or not it is true.
      When a Nile issue is always raised the Egyptians and Sudanese talk about the 1929 and 1959 agreement. But this is completely a dead agreement simply cos it didn’t embrace the interest of the upper Nile basin countries.
      How on Earth a mentally competent individual talk about the 1929 and 1959 Nile agreement which excludes Ethiopia, (a source of 85% of Nile) be a fair agreement. That is completely ridiculous.
      You said ” The ambition of building a dam is an irony for a poor country that couldn’t feed its starved children” I don’t blame you, even the Egyptian and Sudanese politician who are in the Harlem think in a similarly way.
      Ethiopia has a most responsible government, didn’t say to utilize Nile alone but presented a win-win solution. That is about the People of Sudan and Egypt to choose which is good for them. Time will tell us who is true and wrong. Ethiopia, Currently accomplish 18% of the Nile project and you are kindly invited by the Ethiopian government to be part and parcel of the Project.
      definitely Egypt and Sudan are gonna be twisted to assign the agreement.
      Now there is no way Egypt or Sudan can influence Ethiopia, the old back door way to pressure Ethiopia government by interfering in domestic politics is completely a dead game.
      Only ESAT and few toxic Ethiopia Diasporas could be bought with money to work against Ethiopians interest but the Good thing is these people are thousand thousand miles from Ethiopia and would bring no influence at all. This is simply a futile exercise.

    • Abebe Boke says:

      Who fuck Brits are? If Egypt signs paper with Brits means the Nile river starts from London? There is no single reason which could make stupid Brits to sing an agreement on our water, if the Egyptians trying to do any thing even attempting to do any thing on our dam; then that is nightmare for Egypt and Sudan. Sudan might disappear for good.

    • Azalech says:

      You are day dreaming, while we are working on the dam!

      You will wake up when we are Africa’s #1 exporter of electric power!!

  8. Ashu says:

    Just we are working together with anybody. We want Development only not war but if they ….. !!!!

  9. Farrah EL-Amir says:

    Your late Prime Minister, Meles Zenawi said in an interview (2010) “Some people in Egypt have old-fashioned ideas based on the assumption the Nile water belongs to Egypt…The circumstances have changed and changed forever.” This statement is ridiculous. The issue is a matter of life and death for 85 million Egyptians. it is not an issue of “some people in Egypt”. We will see whether the circumstances have changed or not.

    • Ethiopian says:

      Are you sure that you and your people can use and own the nile river by force? Think twice before you talk immotionaly

  10. BHabesha says:

    I think everyone needs to take account of the significance of these so called visit to sudan.
    The dam that ethiopia is currently building will slow down the water and hence allow sudan to develop much more land using the nile as a result egypt is annuyed or frightned or …
    So in other words what egypt is saying to sudan is dont increase the use of nile in return for my filthy trade relation
    i think egypt is at a disadvantage here cuz the upstream countries and sudan will ask for equitable water usage sooner or later and egypts main ally usa’s clear position is not known why? (maybe cuz usa doesnt need egypt to control the arab world anymore since they have loast coordination due to their uprising or whatever so they are not a threat to isreal anymore) finallly i want to quote what meles zenawi said in 2010 “no country that declared war against ethiopia were sucessul in beating mother ethiopia” when he said no country he meant nooooooooo country better yet history will repeat itself so if somebody is thinking something wild you better drop your idea cuz maybe thinking about it may make you pay a price

  11. Mario says:

    Abdelffatah

    Your argument of the 1929/59 pact is illegal agreement! First, Since Egypt & Sudan was under the colony of the British empire , the agreement was between British & British ! Secondly, Ethiopia wasn’t part of the agreement between British & British , therefore Ethiopia isn’t binded by the agreement !

    The ambition of…..& shit is just a nonsense!

    Anyways we are building the Dam & we will face any eventuality that may come as a result!

    History! Which history are you talking about? The nonsense history between British & British ? Come on! The only way is to use the Nile in an equitable manner! The Nile is more than enough for all down stream countries!

  12. Teshale says:

    We know Egypt heavily depends on Nile and we have no wish to unfairly affect the great people of Egypt. Many of us don’t buy the tyrant Meles project of “millinium dam” that he fomented fearing Arab spring would go down south and he planned to quell any insurrection as though safeguarding his stupid project on Nile.
    While that said, it is time for Egypt to brag about its sole ownership of the great river of Nile. It just doesn’t make sense when the river has its source outside Egypt. The only way is to have discussion among all countries owning the river. That way we can work for the good of the whole Africa. Of course that needs visionary leaders which for the time being is missing in almost all the countries. But soon the water specialists (rather than moron politicians) will have chance to deal with the issue and there will be sustainable solution.

  13. Ali says:

    To all of you
    -if you love ur countery
    -if you love ur brother,sisters in back home
    -if Realey to see a change
    SUPORT AND BUY THE BOND
    Talk talk that not Ethiopia mewdede
    Do some thing to ur countery.
    How maney of us BUY the bond
    This is not about Amhara,Tigray,oromia, gambila etc….
    This is about Ethiopia.
    Support ur countery and ur people
    Pease on the earth.

    • Ahmed-Nur says:

      Exactly my words, thank you very much. I don’t support this government, but I love my country and I love to see it develope.

  14. Gura and Gundet says:

    Abdelffatah Mohamed,Farrah EL-Amir,

    no ethiopian in his right mind will ever support any idea to mass starve and thirst egyptians to death. we are very proud , hospitable, and compassionate nation. egypt will continue to use nile water.

    but your thoughtless comments about egypt being the owner of the nile river is very much provocative. nile originates from the heartland of ethiopia, how dare u claim it belongs to egyptians? do u guys own and adminster ethiopian territories? your forefathers signed meaningless treaties in 1929 and in 1956. it is meaningless because they enter into contracts for shared use of a resource they do not control. how does it feel if ethiopia and kenya sign an agreement on equitable, fair share of the annual revenues from the tourism sector in egypt? we can do that because we own those pyramids, right?

    stop all this senseless blabber that nile belongs to egypt bla bla. negotiate with ethiopia and other upstream countries and ensure to get a good though reduced share. otherwise, there is nothing that prevents ethiopia from diverting the nile and make it flow into the indian ocean.

    better to think positive and live within the limits of the common sense.

  15. Teshale says:

    We know Egypt heavily depends on Nile and we have no wish to unfairly affect the great people of Egypt. Many of us don’t buy the tyrant Meles project of “millinium dam” that he fomented fearing Arab spring would go down south and he planned to quell any insurrection as though safeguarding his stupid project on Nile.
    While that said, it is time for Egypt to to stop bragging and crying on its sole ownership of the great river of Nile. It just doesn’t make sense when the river has its source outside Egypt. The only way is to have discussion among all countries owning the river. That way we can work for the good of the whole Africa. Of course that needs visionary leaders which for the time being is missing in almost all the countries. But soon the water specialists (rather than moron politicians) will have chance to deal with the issue and there will be sustainable solution

  16. BHabesha says:

    All of you people sound like as if you are the policy makers. The mass people in a country are like people watchin chess match, they sedlom have the power to decide the next move so i say the only way for egypt to deny further developments on the nile by upstream countrys is to develop the nile to the extereme extent that anybody developing will have significant impact. Luckily enough they havent been able to do it

  17. fekadu says:

    Teshome, woyane buchela.
    Don’t know why you are so hateful to ESAT or to any of Diaspora free thinker. We do love our country and support mutual use of the Nile River. Ethiopian has been starving and will continue to go hungry as long as the people are not allowed to think freely.

  18. Mario says:

    Aye Teshale! Where do you want find a better visionary leader than Meles? From Washington ? Or London…may be from the zero sum politicians in the diaspora ?

    The only way is: to use the Nile in an equitable manner! The Blue Nile belongs to Ethiopia first & then to the down stream countries! The blue Nile flows 24/7/366 a year, no power in the world can stop it! What Egypt can do is , use the water at the Nile Delta!

  19. Mario says:

    Fekadu

    Yegna free thinker kkkkkkkkkkkkkk
    If you were a free thinker, you would have respected Teshome’s freedom to speak freely! That’s how some of you guys are! You are always true & all other Ethiopian are wrong !

    Fekadu, read what you wrote & see for yourself! You talking about freedom , at the same time you tried to deny Tosheme his right to speak freely!

    Our so called diaspora opposition always don’t know what they are talking about! That’s why I think the kilils are very important for the nations, nationalities… Of Ethiopia !

    Enough dams should have been built at the beginning of the 1900s, but our leaders were busy oppressing the people to keep their power!

    The GERD is being built because of the EPRDFITES & the Ethiopian people at large! Nevertheless , the diaspora opposition & some power hungry individuals like Almarian , Messay,,,,,have opposed the building of the dam & aligned themselves with Ethiopia’s enemies just for the purpose of money, money !

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