Controversial Reports On Visit of Egypt’s Intelligence Chief to Sudan

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  1. slick says:

    What can I say?

    Let alone intelligence chief, Top military officials can have the same version of meetings like the Egyptian leaders and embarrass themselves. Another option they can try Ethiopia through war or diplomatic wire!
    WHAT I can assure the Egyptians is that its the same Ethiopians who beats up side dawn or the Eritrean as well as somalians. It looks like its time for egyptians turn to take their turn!!!

    Egypt bring it on! We are not intimidated by the activity of bunch of idiots.

    • Egyptian says:

      Eritreans with their small number have kicked you and liberated their country and helped you to remove Mengistu’s regime! Your army has never been independent in its history! Is it not Cubans, Soviet Union and South Yemen that supported your army to fight against Somalia and Eritrea??? Egyptians can roast you easily!!

      • ETHIOPIAN says:

        Simply – Try us!

      • Roha says:

        The coward Egyptian army is well known for its c owardice in the Israel-Arab wars in the 70s.The coward Eritrean army’s resent defeat …try us

        • Ali says:

          Roha:

          “The coward Eritrean army’s resent defeat”???? You are ignorant and stupid!! An army of Ethiopia (80 Million people) tried to make Eritrea (a country of 5 Million) kneel down but failed miserably hence, you were forced to sign an agreement. Thanks to that agreement – our border is virtually demarcated and the pillars will be in place soon – after the fall of Weyanes.

          Cheers!

      • wedi Hayelom says:

        says the identity less soul-less ANSEBA!

      • The end says:

        @ Egyptian, you can ran but not hide! BAHRE NEGASH .

      • unti shabya says:

        shabya: no brain but big headed…now u pretending being Egyptian…before Esayase your leader was miss Gadafi now Miss Egypt….

      • Ali says:

        Egyptian:

        Well said!! The Ethiopians are bluffing as usual! Yes, the small Eritrea bits Ethiopia and sent it’s Dictator to exile. Dictator Meles also went to hell without fulfilling his dream of annexing Eritrea or (at least) snatching Assab port.

        Ethiopians: please leave Eritrea alone on this issue and deal with Egypt and Sudan who will be affected by your project. Of course Egypt and Eritrea will remain friends as ever.

        It is time for the Ethiopians to payback the crimes they committed against their neighbours -specially Somalia & Eritrea plus Sudan.

        Cheers!

      • Meron says:

        You are non-other than shabia infiltrator. We know you very well. Guregnoch. I am happy your false military pride and arrogance were all together defeated in the last war.

        • Mehadi says:

          Moron,
          Are you talking about the 120,000 souls you lost in Eritrea??? Mengistu lost 500,000 souls. It is simple maths add it up….Morons like you never learn from their mistakes and history!!

        • Ali says:

          Meron:

          We are not “guregnoch” – I only responded to your “gura”!!

          Either you have short memories or you don’t want to remember it. The fact is you tried and tried hard but failed to annex Eritrea in the last war hence, you were forced to sign the Algiers agreement. Have you seen the below?

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Afabet

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Massawa_(1990)

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n0oAUiaYK4

          We will never ever forget the crimes committed by Ethiopia against Eritrea. Probably it is the same with the Somalis – they will never ever forget it.

          Mark my words, 2013 & 214 are blessed years – it is about time for Ethiopia to pay the price of its crimes committed against its neighbors.

          Cheers!!

          • jgna says:

            pfffffff,
            much talk does not help. where is bdame now ?
            do you need any other evidence for shabeya’s humliating defeat?

      • Mel says:

        hahahahahahah I Think this Egyptian has a shallow mind as they always are – because your claims are wrong completely about Ethiopian,s Army may be u have to read a lot in order to feed your empty mind with information and back to history records

      • you gay you don’t have historical knowledge ,our patriot defeated Egyptian vacationist ,solders ,in 1897/in gundet ,kufit front/,1876 in Guerra, …bla bla .so worried for yourself and nations the peoples which they haven’t countery……

    • shaebia says:

      what a rubbish word slick.you are on the verge of your death and time will show us you are the real losers in this game!

  2. T. Beyene says:

    Dear Mr. Dawit! Dr.Birhanu’s interesting character always remind me of an old Ethiopian saying ” yisenebital enji Ahiya yejib nat” At last he has proven again that he is an agent of Ethiopia’s arch enemy, Egypt. The last few days have enabled us to finally see his true banda nature and conclude that he doesn’t belong to the group which struggle for freedom and liberty in Ethiopia. Yebeg lemd yelebese tekula malet esu new.

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    • Pathetic says:

      Dawit, why the multiple standards? You allow some of them such as Teshome, Meron & chala et al to say anything they want but you threaten this poor guy just because he repeated what you always advocate. You are getting lower and lower everyday, how low are you planning to go before you hit rock bottom? Recently, you are becoming consistently inconsistent. That is so pathetic for a guy who paid dearly for press freedom. Follow your brain not your heart or your blood. Try hard to bring the original Dave.

      • chala says:

        @pathetic
        Dawit gave you a chance your ESAT or Ethio media doesn’t you are one of the people who ban in pal talk any one with different idea.
        The admin only said you enjoy different idea but don’t insult the people.
        I never insult the prominent people but I was always tell there bad ideas about Ethiopia.
        So as you do to dawit you guys prefer doing character assassination than arguing about idea.
        Dawit good job continue to put different idea of news from both side and allow different idea of comment not insulting personality

    • Gezaee says:

      Dear Dawit:

      you are unfair to this poor guy T. Beyene, what is offensive about this Dawit Hawey? He is speaking the truth. He is not intimidating anyone. Dr. Berhanu Nega has gone low until allying with Egypt. While have been condemning for what Woyane did to Ethiopia by allying with Shabia, Egypt, … Dr. Berhanu is repeating the same thing now.Do we have to repeat mistakes ? Woyane tell us they have to repeat Menelick Mistakes? G7 tell us they have to repeat Woyanes mistake? Are these good Dawit. I think you are unfair to this man. I do not see any offense on what he wrote; But yet you are also human you can misjudge people like this.

  3. Mad Mike says:

    Ethiopians who are directly and indirectly crying and asking for war day and night may slowly but surely get what they are asking and begging for just like the bygone Bizantine empire.

    Or else Sudanese and Egyptians who are getting fed up with endless provocations may deliver paralizing attacks and arm amara insurgents through the border so that they may pick up their Menelik III and reconquare the entire empire from end to end like during the period of Menelik II. Normally madness is treated with the help of psychiatric counceling but in this aggresive war of nerve madness surgical operation may come to be the final cure.

    • sayint says:

      so are you calling mad genocide? go tell your old guard (tplfites) do it as they put it in their manifesto! Again conquer the empire-which empire? it seems that you are a paranoid weyane or olfite since you guys knew what you did against the Amhara

  4. Alex says:

    1. Egypt made clear that it will use Sudan or support OLF and ONLF to halt the construction of Abay Dam…
    2. since inside enemy Meles the traitor has gone, i am 100% sure that the Ethiopian people will defend their national interest
    3. my fear is the appointment of Susan Rice…she may advocate war between Ethiopia and Egypt just for US purpose (to weaken Morsi).. she was and is a disgrace to African people ..she failed in all her African policy…she failed to publicly advocate action against US allies (Uganda and Tutsi-ruled Rwanda)..the main perpetrators in an ongoing war that has killed millions…..her policy causes mass death and starvation in Somalia and ongoing genocide in Congo….before invasion she said Iraq has nuclear capability which was false..Rice`s mentor and adviser Madeline Albrigh have advocated for genocide in Iraq and military interventions in the Balkans and elsewhere..

  5. Gezaee says:

    Egyptian running around like dogs now; I just read their generals are inside Somalia aleady and their intelligence in Sudan, may be they are already in addis too? in Djbouti too? They are deployed already? What we heard on the utube is already being implemented on ground with no delay.

    Ethiopia must support the Sinai rebels, and form new Nibian rebels. The Nubians are pure Ethiopians who are denied the Nile even. Nubian denied their culture, and language, and assimilated by force.

    We can give more water to Sudan than the 18 billion cubic meter if it is diassociate itself from the terrorist Egytian government. There is no benefit for Sudan. Sudan shares border with us.
    Anyway, I hope the Woyanes government is up for hard work and this time no more betrayal again.

  6. Gezaee says:

    I suggest the Ethiopians government expel:
    1. Call back the Ethiopian embassy
    2. Repatriate all Ethiopian in Egypt
    3. Expel Egytian ambassador
    4. Expel all Egptian investors in Afar and in Gambela and everywhere

    The damage they bring much costy than the benefit they bring to Ethiopia. This are evil terrorists.

    No deal or talk with wild beasts who break the pot that feed them.They even hate American give them 4 billion dollar each year to their military. I hope the Americans understand now that no matter what they give the terrorist will never love them.

  7. Gezaee says:

    http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/06/06/with-cameras-rolling-egyptian-politicians-threaten-ethiopia-over-dam/

    Egypt’s president, Mohamed Morsi, had some important information to share with a room full of politicians who, believing they were in a secret meeting, had just laid out all the covert ways that their country could stop a Nile River dam project in nearby Ethiopia: they were on live television.

    Mr. Morsi convened a meeting of political leaders from both Islamist and secular parties on Monday to discuss the potential impact of a proposed Ethiopian dam on Egypt, which views access to the waters of the Nile as a vital national interest. Unaware that their words were being broadcast live on a state-owned television channel, many of those seated around the table said the dam was in fact a secret American and Israeli plot to undermine Egypt that must be stopped at all costs.

    Excerpts from the meeting were posted to YouTube on Wednesday by the Middle East Media Research Institute, an organization that monitors the Arabic-language media and was founded by a former Israeli intelligence officer.

    Mr. Morsi broke the news to the gathered politicians after Magdi Hussein, the leader of the Islamic Labor Party, proposed that the men gathered around the table vow not to leak any information from their meeting to the news media. All information must first go through Pakinam el-Sharkawy, he said, one of Mr. Morsi’s top aides.

    I’m very fond of battles. With the enemies, of course, with America and Israel, but this battle must be waged with maximum judiciousness and calm. Even though this is a secret meeting we must all take an oath not to leak anything to the media unless it is done officially by Sister Pakinam. We need an official plan for popular national security, even if we did …

    At that point, someone off camera then handed Mr. Hussein a note, which he studied for a moment before chuckling and quickly changing his tone.

    “O.K. Fine. It’s good that you told me,” he said. “The principles behind what I’m saying are not really secret. Our battle is with America and Israel, not with Ethiopia. Therefore, engaging in battle, this is my opinion … ”

    Mr. Morsi then interrupted him, “This meeting is being aired live on TV.”

    The men seated around the long table burst into laughter, as Mr. Hussein, who less than a minute earlier had earnestly described the gathering as a “secret meeting,” began to backtrack with a hint of embarrassment in his voice.

    “I am not presenting a secret plan or anything,” he said, as the other politicians continued to laugh. “All countries do what I am saying and what has been said by others. All countries with regional interests do that.”

    Off camera, someone can be heard saying, “Why didn’t you tell me that earlier?”

    Earlier in the meeting, the assembled politicians proposed a number of ways that Egypt could attempt to stop the dam project. Some were relatively benign, like organizing artistic and cultural exchanges between the two countries. Others were hostile and clandestine, like arming rebels to fight against Ethiopia’s government or instructing Egyptian spies to simply destroy the dam altogether.

    Younis Makhyon, a senior member of the ultraconservative Salafi Nour Party, said he believed that the United States and Israel were secretly behind the dam project and “would use it as a lethal bargaining chip to pressure Egypt.” But not everyone at the meeting was opposed to the idea of foreign countries intervening in the domestic affairs of others.

    “We should intervene in their domestic affairs,” said Ayman Nour, a liberal politician jailed under the former President Hosni Mubarak’s regime. Mr. Nour proposed exploiting political rivalries in Ethiopian society as a cost-effective way to fend off the danger of the dam. He also proposed that instead of attacking Ethiopia, Egypt could leak false “intelligence information” to the news media suggesting that such an attack was imminent. By airing his proposal in front of a live television camera, Mr. Nour may have unwittingly done just that.

    Saad El-Katatni, a leader of the Muslim Brotherhood’s political wing and a longtime lawmaker who served as speaker of the country’s first post-Mubarak parliament, told the gathering that the government had to prepared to do anything “in order to protect our water security, because for us, water security is a matter of life and death.”

    Last week, Ethiopia began diverting water to begin construction of a large hydroelectric dam called the Grand Ethiopian Renaissance Dam, which is expected to produce 6,000 megawatts of electricity. Ethiopian officials have said it will not be used for agriculture and so it should not substantially decrease the amount of water available to downstream countries like Egypt and Sudan.

    The Nile is a vital lifeline for Egypt. Egyptian agriculture is wholly dependent upon the river and the vast majority of the country’s population lives along its banks, but the question of who has a right to the water has long been contentious. Under an agreement negotiated during the colonial era, Egypt is entitled to the majority of the water. Sudan is entitled to a significantly smaller share, but Ethiopia, home to the source of 85 percent of the Nile, is entitled to nothing, as are the other seven countries along the its path.

  8. milu says:

    I think, Egypt would probably be committing the gravest mistake over its history if what is heard on their tv show is true.

    If I were Egypt, I would have shut up and cooperate with Ethiopia to achieve a win-win situation. The world has changed so is Ethiopia.

    Or else, the evil attitude of Egypt may invite for the the worst tragedy of this planet that may WIPE OUT the entire Egypt and Sudan. For its existence, Sudan MUST distance itself from Egypt

    I must not describe what that might mean. Even if it wont’t be serving for the original purpose, it would serve for another interesting purpose. So, Egypt, eat your heart and accept the reality.

    The Ethiopian regime is not a good one or its own population, which is the worst abuser of human rights. But that doesn’t mean that Egypt will have a free ride to disestablish our country and put the people in vicious poverty.

    I trained in the water sector and know the mindset of Egyptian professionals and politicians.

  9. Tagash says:

    Egyptian, are you Elias Kifle?

    Hey Guys check out what Elias Kifle, AKA Egyptian, posted on his website this evening. You can tell that he is loosing it, feel sorry for him

  10. rayaw says:

    those people have under estimated our potential to harm them, eventhough at the moment we are acting and behaving in a civilized way, they forget that once we are at war,it is easy to obtain few killo grams of radio active matterial and dump it in the river within their teritory, and make nile unusable for some time, but i discarage this as a prime task but as a last resort.

  11. Elias says:

    ኤልያስ ክፍሌ ኣንተ ግን የማን ጠላት ነህ የኢህአዴግ ወይስ የኢትዮጵያውያን? ኣንትንና መሳዮች የወያኔ/ኢህአዴግ ተቃዋሚ ነን ባዮች ይመስልን ነበር፣ ኣሁን ግን ኣንተ ስለ ኢ/ያና ህዝቦቻ ተቆርቃሪ፣ ጠበቃ፣ ኣክቲቢስተ ወይም ኣንተ እንደመትለው ተወዳጅ ጋዜጠኛ ሳትሆን ልክ የኢ/ያ መንግስት የሰጠህ ውሳኔም ሲያንስብህ ነው፣ ኣንተ የኣቶ ኢሳያስ ኣፈውርቅ ቃላቀባይ ነው የምትመስለው ሁለ ነገርህ ፀረ ኢ/ያና ህዝቦቻ የምትንቀሳቀስ መሆንህ ለመላው ዓለም ኣስመስክረሃል፣ በኡነት በታም ኣሳፋሪ፣ ሃገር ከዲ ሆዳም ለሆዱ ኣዳሪ ነህ፣ ምንም የምታመጡት ነገር ባይኖርም ለምን ኢ/ያ የቁርጥ ቀን ልጆቻ ከእቅፋ ይዛለችና ታድያ ከምታንፀቫረቁት ነገር በኣንተንና ኣንተን መሳዮች ትውልደ አ/ያ በመሆናቹ ብቻ እናፍራለን!!!!

  12. usman says:

    We Ethiopin Muslim ppl will stand up with our Egyptian Muslim brothers.inshallah.
    We talkd about this three yrs ago in our paltalk room.
    Free our Muslim brzrs.
    Ethiopian muskims will will rule Ethiopia sooooooooon. Inshalla !

    • Ali says:

      usman:

      I agree with you. During the emperors time it was not allowed to built a mosque.

      It is sad, Muslims are around 50% in Ethiopia while they don’t have the right to worship freely.

  13. Mario says:

    Why worry about Elias kifle? Elias kifle is a shabiya in an Ethiopian skin , therefore , when his shabiya dream was broken into pieces, he lost his mind! ኣትበድማ ኣይባልም! ያለንበት ዓለም ነፃ ዓለም ነው፣ስለሆነም እንደነ ጉንበት 7 ፣ እንደነ ኤልያስ ክፍሌ ወዘተ ማበድ ይቻላል!ማን ይከለክላቸዋል? We heard them telling us “this is free country while they have nothing free for us”

    Trying to defend G7, Elias kifle… Is amounted to trying to defend Egypt!
    Think again!

    God bless Ethiopia !

  14. Abebe says:

    Tagash you are right.Elias Kifle will be prosecuted for the future for Aiding the enemy.even if the EPRDF leave power.

  15. s100 says:

    U.S. quietly allows military aid to Egypt despite rights concerns

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/07/us-egypt-usa-idUSBRE95600J20130607

  16. Amlakaman says:

    Once upon a time there was a fighter ( Boxer ) named Marvin Hagler , a great fighter of all time and I remember one of his interviews after his fight . This is what he said:
    Mr. Hagler why do you always come back and win after every one says you are bleeding and you lost ?
    Well here is a thing , I am always focused and I am there to win ,
    THE SECRET IS WHEN I SEE BLOOD I GET MEANER .
    It reminds me of myself as an Ethiopian and Ethiopians in unison .
    We will never loose .
    Just a reminder be aware about this loonies Elias Kifle and Almariam , they have shoot the first salvo for the war between Egypt and Ethiopia . What a disgraceful aliens .

  17. axamed says:

    We ethiopians defeated the last war with eritrea,if u r asharp minded person u remember when our military heroes captured the eriterea city of barentu,which is nearer to their capital,asmara.it was our will why we cameback not asingle resistance from their side.when it comes the war with somalia in 1977G.c,the ethiopian somalis were with somalia but if war erupts b/n egypt and ethiopia the ethiopian somalis,will be the forefront of the war to fight egypt.don’t perceive the new ethiopia as the past and put yourself in trouble.the dam will be finished while your naked eyes see.

  18. Mario says:

    Ali

    The purpose of our army going deep into Eritrea was to punish shabiya & we did! Had we wanted to annex Eritrea, there was nothing than could stop us, look at shabiya in 1997 & shabiya now! The gallant Ethiopian forces turned shabiya to eat each other like a hyena!

    What you are wrote is shabiya fabricated propaganda to keep you at bay! You better know the reality for yourself! 22 years later look at shabiya? It has lost everything !

    • Ali says:

      Mario:

      Yes, your plan was to chase us until Keren, Nakfa, Red Sea, …etc. Your spokespersons were saying this openly in year 2000 when you thought you are close to fulfilling your dreams but dream and reality are different hence, we kick your ass and the Weyanes realized that it was impossible to win the war hence, signed the agreement. This is fact and recoded history!!

      It was the same in Somalia, you were bitten and you left the country by putting your tail between your legs!!

      Shabia is still Shabiya – also remember that those who bitten you during the 1998-2000 war are not Shabiya – they are the lions of Sawa!!

      Good luck with your Dam construction and Egyptian response – 2013 and 2014 are blessed years – mark my words, it will be the end of the Weyanes and Ethiopians will be free!!

  19. Mario says:

    Ali,

    …You are just here in an Ethiopian forum because you have no good news to talk about yours!

    ዓሊ

    መዛርብኻ ድለይ! ኣብዓድኻ ዝዝረብ ስለዘየብልካ ኣብዚ መፂኻ ሃጠው ቀጠው ትብል ኣለኻ! መዛርብትኻ ድለይ! ኣነ ኣብ ቦታይ ኣለኹ!ኣብዘይቦቱኡ ኣትዩ ዝርብሽ ከልቢ ጥራሕ እዩ!

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